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26 April 2010 @ 10:58 pm
Just Words...  
Now I come to the crazy tinhattery poetry analysis XD
And I know I'm not the first one to do this, far from it, but give me a chance, okay?
All poems written by Viggo Mortensen

Trague (devour)

I swallowed the reel and the rod
and the faith that so sweetly I had
the afternoon of the day that I met you.
I saw myself in your eyes and in your arms
and an entire lifetime in your lips I lived
the afternoon of the day that I met you.


Isn't it simply beautiful? Just let it sink in for a few seconds and then it's on to the analysis.



I swallowed the reel and the rod --> he fell in love (perhaps head over heels?)
and the faith that so sweetly I had--> he didn’t want it to happen, doesn’t allow himself to lose control like that normally
the afternoon of the day that I met you.--> love at first sight?
I saw myself in your eyes and in your arms--> he recognizes similarities between them both
and an entire lifetime in your lips I lived--> this speaks for itself I guess ;)
the afternoon of the day that I met you.

Okay no real indication that this might be related to Orli, but it would be nice if it were, right? ;)
Next poem has much more to offer when we talk about tinhattery...



Communion

WE'VE LEFT SHORE SOMEHOW
BECOME THE FRIENDS
OF EARLY THEORY
CLOSE ENOUGH TO SPEAK
DESIRE AND PAIN OF ABSENCE
OF MISTAKES WE'D MAKE
GIVEN THE CHANCE.

EACH SMILE RETURNED
MAKES HARDER AVOIDING
DREAMS THAT SEE US
LYING IN EARLY EVENING
CURTAIN SHADOWS, SKIN
SAFE AGAINST SKIN.
BLOOM OF COMPASSION
RESPECT FOR MOMENTS
EYES LOCK TURNS
FOREVER INTO ONE MORE
VEIL THAT FALLS AWAY.

THIS AFTER SEEING YOU
LAST NIGHT, FIRST TIME
SMELLING YOU WITH
PERMISSION: SHOULDERS TO
WONDER OPENLY AT
AS CAREFULLY KISSED
AS THOSE ARMS
WAITED IMPOSSIBLY ON.
THEY'VE HELD ME NOW
AND YOUR BREATH
DOWN MY BACK
SENT AWAY NIGHT AIR
THAT HAD ME SHAKING
IN THE UNLIT ANGLICAN
DOORWAY.

ARE WE RUINED FOR
FINDING OUR FACES FIT
AND WANT TO KNOW MORE
ABOUT MORNING? IS
FRIENDSHIP CANCELLED
IF WE CAN'T CALL
EACH OTHER ANYMORE
IN AMNESIA, INVITE
OURSELVES TO LAST GLANCES
UNDER SUSPICIOUS CLOCKS
TELLING US WHEN WE'VE
HAD ENOUGH?

YOUR STEADY HANDS
CRADLING MY GRATEFUL
SKULL: WERE YOU TAKING
IN MY FACE TO
SAVE AN IMAGE
YOU'VE RARELY ALLOWED
YOURSELF AFTER LEAVING
THAT COLD ALCOVE?
AM I A PHOTOGRAPH
YOU GAZE AT IN
MOMENTS OF WEAKNESS?

YOU ORDERED ME
OFF MY KNEES
INTO YOUR ARMS.
WASN'T TO BEG
THAT I KNELT; ONLY
TO SEE YOU ONCE
FROM BELOW.

TRIED TO SAY SOMETHING
THAT FILLED MY MOUTH
AND LONGED TO REST
IN YOUR EAR.
DON'T DARE WRITE
IT DOWN FOR FEAR IT'LL
BECOME WORDS, JUST
WORDS.
(1999-2002)

(it was posted in captial letters and I didn't feel like typing it all again)

Also a lovely poem, but let's look a bit deeper, shall we?



WE'VE LEFT SHORE SOMEHOW
BECOME THE FRIENDS
OF EARLY THEORY
CLOSE ENOUGH TO SPEAK
DESIRE AND PAIN OF ABSENCE
OF MISTAKES WE'D MAKE
GIVEN THE CHANCE --> They met in New Zealand and became friends. Both were perhaps a bit homesick and missed the people they left behind? (pain of absence)

EACH SMILE RETURNED
MAKES HARDER AVOIDING
DREAMS THAT SEE US
LYING IN EARLY EVENING
CURTAIN SHADOWS, SKIN
SAFE AGAINST SKIN.
BLOOM OF COMPASSION
RESPECT FOR MOMENTS
EYES LOCK TURNS
FOREVER INTO ONE MORE
VEIL THAT FALLS AWAY --> He dreams of them being together - BLOOM OF COMPASSION!!! Obvious much? ;)

THIS AFTER SEEING YOU
LAST NIGHT, FIRST TIME
SMELLING YOU WITH
PERMISSION: SHOULDERS TO
WONDER OPENLY AT
AS CAREFULLY KISSED
AS THOSE ARMS
WAITED IMPOSSIBLY ON.
THEY'VE HELD ME NOW
AND YOUR BREATH
DOWN MY BACK
SENT AWAY NIGHT AIR
THAT HAD ME SHAKING
IN THE UNLIT ANGLICAN
DOORWAY --> Not much to say but do you remember this interview? What is your favourite smell?
To truthfully answer at this time, I'd have to reveal something that is too intimate to reveal.
I just couldn't get that out of my head.

ARE WE RUINED FOR
FINDING OUR FACES FIT
AND WANT TO KNOW MORE
ABOUT MORNING? IS
FRIENDSHIP CANCELLED
IF WE CAN'T CALL
EACH OTHER ANYMORE
IN AMNESIA, INVITE
OURSELVES TO LAST GLANCES
UNDER SUSPICIOUS CLOCKS
TELLING US WHEN WE'VE
HAD ENOUGH? --> He thinks their relationship/attraction may be wrong. Worried about Orli's actor career? About their age difference? He is worried about losing a friend in this. Time is ticking away...time in New Zealand? What comes after?

YOUR STEADY HANDS
CRADLING MY GRATEFUL
SKULL: WERE YOU TAKING
IN MY FACE TO
SAVE AN IMAGE
YOU'VE RARELY ALLOWED
YOURSELF AFTER LEAVING
THAT COLD ALCOVE?
AM I A PHOTOGRAPH
YOU GAZE AT IN
MOMENTS OF WEAKNESS? --> While saying goodbye? They know they can't be together

YOU ORDERED ME
OFF MY KNEES
INTO YOUR ARMS.
WASN'T TO BEG
THAT I KNELT; ONLY
TO SEE YOU ONCE
FROM BELOW --> Just AWWWWW so beautiful and speaks for itself I think ♥

TRIED TO SAY SOMETHING
THAT FILLED MY MOUTH
AND LONGED TO REST
IN YOUR EAR.
DON'T DARE WRITE
IT DOWN FOR FEAR IT'LL
BECOME WORDS, JUST
WORDS --> I think this is really goodbye, and how heartbreaking

Call me a crazy tinhatter, but there are so many hints in that poem....plus it was written from 1999-2002, the timespan in which they were in New Zealand shooting LOTR. It's just too perfect to be a coincidence if you ask me ;)



Finally I want to just mention the translation of another poem

33

It's been days since I've seen you from above
The others feign flight. I like ...
planes, but I don't need them
I study my hands instead of your eyes
When do you know your name when...
no one listens to you? The rain sings on
the tin roof plates, the dreams of yesterday, every drop
stopped by the kitchen roof
where I dream with the cat on my lap.


Okay I'll leave the interpretation of that one up to you guys ;)
 
 
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woowoochow on April 26th, 2010 10:28 pm (UTC)
i think there was definitely something there
wiccaqueenwiccaqueen on April 27th, 2010 06:37 am (UTC)
I think there was ;)
1nagromniloc on April 26th, 2010 10:37 pm (UTC)
I love Viggos poetry :))
wiccaqueen: Stock - Dreaming my Life awaywiccaqueen on April 27th, 2010 06:38 am (UTC)
I do too, though I haven't read too many yet. Something I have to catch up on ;)
I love his LOVE poems, such great imagery and emotion!
slashbycaranfin: differentslashbycaranfin on April 27th, 2010 01:09 am (UTC)
*sigh* I myself enjoy a good bout of tinhattery every now and then, i think it's quite healthy! :-D

And besides, his poetry is phenomenal amongst the best!
wiccaqueen: Stock - Dreaming my Life awaywiccaqueen on April 27th, 2010 06:39 am (UTC)
Quite healthy, awwww I like that ;)

It truely is! I could read his poems over and over again, such beauty ♥
helineloro: vigorli di simohelineloro on April 27th, 2010 12:35 pm (UTC)
Viggo's poetry is really beautiful and tells us much, we confirm things we have always known.

Thank you.
wiccaqueen: Stock - Viggowiccaqueen on April 27th, 2010 01:04 pm (UTC)
Viggo's poetry is really beautiful and tells us much, we confirm things we have always known.

I couldn't agree more :)

Glad you enjoyed my post
paulabmpaulabm on April 29th, 2010 05:08 am (UTC)
It's amazing how much he loved (loves) him. Thank you for sharing this. :)
wiccaqueen: Stock - VigOrli Brightwiccaqueen on April 29th, 2010 05:49 am (UTC)
It really is...again call me a crazy tinhatter, but I do think their love was very strong and that Orli might have been / still is the love of his life in some way. It's so beautiful ♥
loretowloretow on May 5th, 2010 07:19 am (UTC)
That was the mos beautiful and perfect analysis I have read in English!! And my first language is Spanish! Communion it's such a great poem! Most of people related it to Viggorli :) It's just perfect! I loved your analysis : ) And of course it's not just a coincidence! It has to be true : ) Well I'm really glad to read something so beautiful as an Viggorli analysis based on Viggo poems! I'm new to Viggorli I fell in love with the couple just on Febuary but every day I'm more convinced that there is something between Viggo and Orlando or there was something! And Viggo can't stop to think in Orlando! The other day I watched an interview it was in Spanish about the film Appaloosa :) The thing is that the interviewers told Viggo that Orlando was in the city at the moment. (I don't really know where year they did this interview) Then Viggo was so concerned about Orlando being there! It was like "Orlando is here? Right now? Did you talk to him?" It was so cute and then Viggo encouraged the audience to call for Orlando saying "We want Orlando" "We want Orlando to come" It was cute! And with that Spanish voice Viggo has it was even better! : ) Thank you very much for sharing your analysis! I would love to read more : )
wiccaqueen: Stock - VigOrli Brightwiccaqueen on May 5th, 2010 07:41 am (UTC)
First of all thank you so much :)
I really just found the poems a few weeks ago and thought I might analyse them, although it's probably been done a million times already ;)
I'm also a fairly new Viggorli fan! I mean I've always liked them back when LOTR was new but I only ever slashed Aragorn/Legolas. It's only this past year that I started getting more and more interested in Viggorli.
And you're right! There has to be something there! I honestly believe that Viggo loved/loves him. it's such a beautiful love story!

And that's the first time I heard anything about that interview! *squee*
Thanks so much for sharing that :)
That sounds sooooo lovely. Do you have a link to the interview? Though sadly I can't speak any Spanish I would still love to listen to it :)

And would you mind if I befriend you? You seem really lovely and I would love to talk more about Viggorli with you, dont have to many shippers on my flist right now


loretowloretow on May 5th, 2010 05:46 pm (UTC)
I'm so happy to knoe you!!! I thought I was the only new Viggorli fan here! I mean it has been such a long time since Lord of the rings was filmed and obviously in that time there were a lot of Viggorli fans! Altough nowadays still are :) I also started with Aragorn and Legolas! Then I started to know the actors better that was how I found out about the lovely Orlando and the wonderful Viggo! And how the two of them made such a great couple : ) About the interview right now I don't remember which of them was it, because the day I watched I watched los of Viggo! But of course I can find it :) and if you want I can make a translation for you to understand was is being said. I would be more than happy to share any Viggorli thing!!! You can add me as a friend I would be more than honored of being your friend! Altough I don't know how to use livejournal very well!! And I would love to chat to you on messenger if you have an e-mail account! I have one of hotmail! I would love to read about your analysis more :) I'm really happy!!! Know another Viggorli is the best thing has happened to me!! Have a very nice day!! And don't worry I'look it up the interview and will do a translation : ) (probably I can share it with yo on friday because these day I have many classes) Take care of yourself and have a really nice day!!
wiccaqueen: Stock - Aragorn b/wwiccaqueen on May 5th, 2010 08:35 pm (UTC)
and if you want I can make a translation for you to understand was is being said
Oh that would be so lovely of you! :)
You are really very kind and sweet. Let me know what I can do for you, okay? ♥
Okay I already befriended you. I can maybe help you with LJ? ;)
My msn is: t_r_herig@hotmail.de

It would be great just to chat over Viggorli! :D

And don't worry, whenever you have time about the translation. I'm not going anywhere ;)

Have a good night!